RWS 71 – Aircrew Mental Health with Kevin Humphreys – Part 2

Kevin Humphreys is an experienced military and EMS pilot who bounced back from a period of mental illness and is now an ambassador for a number of mental health organisations.

Part 2 of the interview with ex-Australian Army and current Search and Rescue pilot Kevin Humphreys looking at the topic of aircrew mental health. In this episode the focus shifts from Kevin’s military career to his personal experience with mental health challenges, the recovery process and what other aircrew can take away for their own careers and perhaps more importantly, for their long term wellbeing. 

Listen to Part 1 here

Mental health is just such an under-represented topic in crewrooms and hangars the world over that I’m really glad that we can cover it here and that Kevin is so open and willing to share his story and what he has learnt on the way through.

Kevin’s career at-a-glance:
* Blackhawks, Chinooks – Australian Army Aviation
* Deployments – East Timor, Iraq, Afghanistan
* OC CH-47 Chinook Squadron, twice Detachment Commander of Australian Chinooks in Afghanistan
* Search and Rescue – Bell 412, BK117, AW139
* Check and Training Captain, Chief Pilot, Director of Operations

There is an assumption here that you have listened to Episode 70 before starting into this particular podcast.

I’d recommend that you stop and go do that to get the entire context if you are not up to speed – as this interview launches straight back into where we left off – and this time around the discussion is much more focused on the aircrew mental health side of things – both Kevin’s person experience and a discussion for general aircrew applicability.

In the last episode Kev speaks about an air assault mission he flew in Afghanistan with 9 other Australian Army aircrew in 2 Chinooks to extract Canadian special forces soldiers which saw them involved in a fierce firefight at the extraction point. All done on NVGs with essentially zero illumination with RPGs being fired around the aircraft.

For the last 7 or so years Kevin has been flying in the civil search and rescue role and is currently a check and training captain on the AW139 type.

There is a lot more in that interview but that quickly gives you the bare bones to understand that Kev has been around the block a few times and is speaking to us with some solid experience behind him.

Kevin picks up the story talking about when things started to go off the rails for him.

A number of links are provided below to mental health resources for anyone looking to take advantage of them.

Australian Army CH47D Chinook releasing flares just outside Tarin Kowt, Afghanistan, 2006

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Links from this week’s episode:
Support the podcast on Patreon

MILITARY Mental Health Support
Mates4Mates
Stand Tall 4 PTS
Gallipoli Medical Research Foundation
Redsix APP – Phone App for veterans that alerts when other veterans are nearby and you/they need help

GENERAL COMMUNITY Mental Health Support
Phoenix Australia – Centre for Posttraumatic Mental Health
R U OK? – suicide prevention charity that aims to start life-changing conversations
Moodgym – online self-help program designed to help prevent and manage symptoms of depression and anxiety. Free for Australians.
Beyond Blue – information and support to help everyone achieve their best possible mental health
Be a Looper APP – App that keeps you in contact with up to 5 people for regular check-ins, peer support that is unique to you

AVIATION SPECIFIC Mental Health Support
CASA Fact Sheet on Depression and Aviation Safety
Australian Federation of Air Pilots – Welfare Services

A couple of points I’ve pulled out from my notes that might be worth summarising:

* Kevin points out it being important to talk about mental health – even if you don’t know how, or the words to use, just the act of talking about how you are feeling with someone starts the recovery.

* Kevin’s Cheeseburger and coke analogy – comparing mental fitness to physical fitness is an easy way to remember and visualise the whole concept.

* If you encounter a mental health episode that it is not flying career ending with the proper intervention and support – just like any other medical issue

* Statistically most of us are going to deal with periods of mental illness either ourselves or with close friends and family at some time in our life.

* It can afflict anyone and that there is no shame or guilt or personal failing attached to it. It is just a function of living in a homo sapien body with an organ called a brain, and that its probably actually amazing that our brain works as well as it does most of the time.

* And lastly – The longer you ignore it or suppress it – the more you’ll have to work through when it finally does catch up with you.

Kevin’s story especially, and I’m sure there are many more like his, illustrates that you just wouldn’t want to have to go through those years of mental anguish, perceived isolation and that pain if you knew it was normal just to talk to someone early and that it is something that so many other people are going through or have gone through.

Kevin Humphreys with a BK117 on top of a Sydney hospital pad
Chinooks at Sunset – Kevin was a Detachment Commander for two trips to Afghanistan
Sep, 2018 – Kevin (2nd from left) with King and Queen of the Netherlands for the awarding of the Military Order of William to Dutch Apache pilot Roy de Ruiter. Kevin and Roy struck up a friendship serving together in Afghanistan.

If there was a part of Kevin’s story that really resonated with you or if you wanted to provide some feedback or be part of the conversation around this episode in particular then please post a comment below

RWS 70 – Aircrew Mental Health with Kevin Humphreys – Part 1

Kevin Humphreys is an experienced military and EMS pilot who bounced back from a period of mental illness and is now an ambassador for a number of mental health organisations.

Kevin Humphreys is a veteran of a number of overseas military deployments on Blackhawk and Chinook, currently a check and training pilot on AW139 helicopters and an ambassador for a number of mental health charities. He joins us in the interview today to share some of his flying experiences and his personal story of struggling with and overcoming an episode of mental illness.

With almost half of Australian adults estimated to experience a mental disorder at some time in their life it would be ludicrous to suggest that it is not something that would impact on the helicopter aircrew population.

This is part one of a two part interview. I’ll update this blog post with a link to the second half once it is published. Part 1/this episode is more focused on Kevin’s career and deployments which establishes the context for much of the mental health discussion in part 2.

Kandahar, AFG – Ready for departure, CH-47D with AH-64 escort

Kevin graduated from the Australian Army’s officer training course at Duntroon in Canberra before being posted to Point Cook, Victoria for initial flying training. He flew with the Australian Army throughout the 90s and 2000s, flying Blackhawk and Chinook types and serving up until 2011.

Video Extract “From the Shadows: Australia’s Special Forces” where Kevin talks about flying in Afghanistan.

He discusses a number of deployments to East Timor, one to Iraq and then a number to Afghanistan with some of the lessons learnt from each along with some of the organisational and operational challenges at the time. Kevin also re-tells the events around OP NILE which was a multi-national, joint operation involving Australian Chinooks, Canadian special forces, Afghan forces, Dutch Apaches, a US AC-130 and predator UAVs.

They said a rocket propelled grenade passed under us and another RPG went over the top while we were on approach

C Sqn, 5 Avn Regt just prior to Afghanistan deployment 2006 – Kevin as Officer Commanding in front.

We don’t spend a lot of time talking about Kevin’s post military flying career in rescue and the medical transport roles but he has held job titles along the way of – check and training captain, director of operations and chief pilot roles. Additional aircraft types are BK117, Bell 412 and AW139.

Outside of flying and on the mental health side of things Kevin is a speaker for BeyondBlue and a community ambassador for both the Mates4Mates program and the RUOK charity.

Kevin Humphreys with a QLD Government Air Wing Bell 412 on top of the Mater Hospital, Brisbane

Kevin suffered from anxiety for many years, PTSD, turned to alcohol abuse and eventually reached a point of mental breakdown where he finally was given support. From here he started the long process of recovery and return to work. He is very open about his experiences and displays an incredible vulnerability and courage to talk about it in the second part of this interview (Episode 71) with the aim of helping anyone else that might be in the position he was and to help normalise the conversation.

One of Kevin’s messages is that mental health is a spectrum – no different from physical fitness – that there are times when we are very mentally fit and other times when we are mentally out of condition and need some more mental ‘pushups/exercise’ to get back into condition. The sooner the intervention and positive addressing of any issues the quicker the rebound is.

It is by no means a career ending event for aircrew and if we are trying to be professional aviators then it’s a topic that needs to be more widely discussed.

A number of links are provided below to mental health resources for anyone looking to take advantage of them.

Podcast: Subscribe in iTunes | Play in new window | Download

Links from this week’s episode:
Support the podcast on Patreon

MILITARY Mental Health Support
Mates4Mates
Stand Tall 4 PTS
Gallipoli Medical Research Foundation
Redsix APP – Phone App for veterans that alerts when other veterans are nearby and you/they need help

GENERAL COMMUNITY Mental Health Support
Phoenix Australia – Centre for Posttraumatic Mental Health
R U OK? – suicide prevention charity that aims to start life-changing conversations
Moodgym – online self-help program designed to help prevent and manage symptoms of depression and anxiety. Free for Australians.
Beyond Blue – information and support to help everyone achieve their best possible mental health
Be a Looper APP – App that keeps you in contact with up to 5 people for regular check-ins, peer support that is unique to you

AVIATION SPECIFIC Mental Health Support
CASA Fact Sheet on Depression and Aviation Safety
Australian Federation of Air Pilots – Welfare Services

Kevin unveiling the plaque to name the Australian base at Kandahar CAMP BAKER in honour of CPL Mick Baker who was the loadmaster killed in the Black Hawk crash (Townsville, Australia) in Jun 96
A15-104 was callsign Patriot 47 captained by Kevin on OP NILE – one of two Australian Army chinooks taking part in a special forces operation in Afghanistan

CH-47 Chinook dust landing examples in Afghanistan

Have a comment or feedback about Episode 70? A question for Kevin or a good resource to add to the list? Be part of the conversation by leaving a comment below.

RWS 68 – 2018 World Helicopter Day and Flying the Chinook with Paul Kennard

Paul Kennard, RAF Chinook driver

World Helicopter Day 2018 is this Sunday! Wishing everyone in the industry a fantastic day for it as we celebrate what we do and the machines we love.

A big thank you to Mike Young from aircrewinterview.tv for being kind enough to allow the syndication of this interview with RAF pilot Paul Kennard. The audio version is on the podcast feed along with more information about events lined up around the world for this Sunday.

The video below is the original interview with Paul.

2018 World Helicopter Day event locations:

Australia, Cairns – Nautilus Aviation
Australia, Brisbane – Aeropower Flight School
Australia, Newcastle – Skyline Aviation Group
Australia, Perth – Corsaire Aviation
Belgium, Wevelgem – Heli Business
England, Leicestershire – Helicentre Aviation
England, Somerset – The Helicopter Museum
England, Ramsgate – Polar Helicopters
England, Manchester – Flight Academy Ltd
England, Chard – Historic Helicopters
Germany, Munich – Sky Magic
Hong Kong – Hong Kong Aviation Club Foundation
Scotland, Fort William – Helisafari
Scotland, Kinloss – Morayvia Science and Technology Centre
Serbia, Belgrade – Balkan Helicopters
Spain, Balearic Islands – Balearic Helicopters
South Africa, Johannesburg – Henley Air
USA, Pennsylvania – American Helicopter Museum
USA, Hawaii – Blue Hawaiian Helicopters
USA, Washington – Snohomish County Helicopter Rescue Team
USA, California – Wings Over Camarillo
USA, New York – Independent Helicopters
USA, Arkansas – flyARH
USA, Alabama – Wallace State Community College

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Links from this week’s episode:
World Helicopter Day – Register Your Event
aircrewinterview.tv – original source of this interview. (Youtube Channel)

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