RWS 43 – Bell 525 Relentless with Larry Thimmesch

Larry Thimmesch is Vice President, Bell 525 Relentless Sales for Bell Helicopter
Larry Thimmesch is Vice President, Bell 525 Relentless Sales for Bell Helicopter

Our guest today is Larry Thimmesch, Vice President Bell 525 Relentless Sales. Larry has been involved with the 525 for the last 5 years from the program’s very earliest days.

The 525 is Bell Helicopter’s largest helicopter to date and weighs in at 20,000lbs or 9000kg. It has been created off a completely clean sheet design and will be the world’s first commercial fly-by-wire helicopter. In this interview you’ll get to hear about the background to the design process and a run down of the technology and advances built into a whole range of the aircraft’s systems.

When Larry first started at Bell Helicopter as the VP of Commercial Programs there was a goal of growing the commercial side of the company in the face of decreasing defence budgets.

From the outset the program aimed to incorporate capabilities developed from recent Bell Helicopter military design experience and to include the best of current technologies avaliable.

A review of the most common causes of rotorcraft accidents was undertaken with a focus on identifying where technology could add value and safety – whether that was Bell internal technology or what was currently in the marketplace.

[Tweet “Fly-by-wire design – 3 completely independent electrical, hydraulic and actuation systems #bell525”]

Bell 525 Flight Test Vehicle 1 - hard to see in this smaller image but the signatures of the customer advisory group have been painted on the tailboom. Photo Credit: Bell Helicopter
Bell 525 Flight Test Vehicle 1 – hard to see in this smaller image but the signatures of the customer advisory group have been painted on the tailboom. Photo Credit: Bell Helicopter

A customer working group were invited into the design process and came up with a Christmas shopping list of features they wanted which included a <20,000lbs MTOW, more baggage volume, safety and a non-negotiable CAT A performance along with many more key requirements. 6 months later the Bell 525 program team were able to show this same customer group a full scale wooden mockup of the design.

With 10,000 all new designed parts, the Bell 525 Relentless is a helicopter that they are planning to last in the market for the next 10, 20 even 30 year period.

At the time of recording Flight Test Vehicle 2 (FTV2) is being shown at HeliExpo 2016 with a third aircraft to join the certification phase shortly.

[Tweet “Aircraft maintenance data can be passed via satellite connection back to base engineers while in flight. #bell525”]

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In this week’s episode:

01:45 HeliExpo 2016
02:15 Larry Thimmesch – Boeing, Bombardier, Bell Helicopters
05:20 Customer advisory panel 2011 – 85 different kits/layouts
08:00 Developing the value proposition and getting the message out
09:30 Coming up with the name and model number
11:10 Expected roles and industries
14:00 Clean sheet design – how you do that
18:25 Full scale wood mockup of the aircraft 6 months later
21:00 Size of the program staff – up to 500 people at peak – and cross specialty input
25:10 Early performance figures – range, loads, Vne
27:36 Engine powerpack and rationale
30:00 APU – customer design request to have cabin cooling without blades turning
31:10 Triple redundancy, voting fault tolerance, integrated maintenance recording system and fleet wide data
35:50 Cockpit design and IR field ‘touch’ screens
39:10 Philosophy for fly-by-wire control approach
41:50 Cat A departure engine failure self recovery by autopilot
43:33 Canted tailrotor design – hover attitude and CoG envelope
45:20 Flight controls/joysticks with force feedback
47:10 MFD / PFD layout and presentation
50:10 5 bladed rotor disc – large diameter to achieve Cat A performance
52:00 Gearboxes – 7 transmissions total, engine RPM is stepped down before main transmission, specialized materials
55:00 Lift assist tailboom patented design – extra 400lbs of hover capability
57:55 Crashworthiness and egress features
1:03:30 Maintenance and support planning
1:05:45 Training approach, simulators, courses
1:08:10 Standing up a capability from day one with operator
1:11:40 Future milestones over next few months and certification
1:18:15 Episode Sponsors trainmorepilots.com – LinkedIn tip about vanity URLs

Links from this week’s episode:
Bell Helicopter website for the 525 Relentless
Larry Thimmesch on LinkedIn

[Video] – Flight Test Vehicle 1 flying shots.
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[Tweet “It takes a while to design an aircraft from nothing. We have 10,000 parts on this aircraft & they are all brand new. It is a daunting task. #bell525”]

The ARC Horizon flight deck system and side positioned fly-by-wire controls make the 525 Relentless cockpit appear sparse. Photo: Bell Helicopter
The ARC Horizon flight deck system and side positioned fly-by-wire controls make the 525 Relentless cockpit appear sparse. Photo: Bell Helicopter

A photo posted by Abraham Salcedo (@abrasava) on

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RWS 9 – Never Work a Day in your Life with John Eacott

John Eacott is an experienced helicopter pilot with a wide experience
John Eacott is heavily involved in aviation in and out of the cockpit

John Eacott’s aviation career has spanned 49 years and he’s still adding time on top of that today as an active commercial pilot.

He has spent a huge amount of time flying over oceans as an ex-Royal Navy pilot and multiple stints in the oil industry.

He is also the first nuclear qualified helicopter pilot I’ve ever spoken to and we cover that in the interview.

John has worked for several of the larger companies as well as owned his own helicopter company.

Police, firefighting, aerial photography, banner towing, charter, heli-skiiing, traffic reporting, longlining and film flying – you name it – including flying in antarctica. – John has done it.

He is also heavily involved in the industry outside the cockpit being a long time member and office holder in The Honourable Company of Air Pilots and is a frequent contributor to online forums.

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00:50 49 years in aviation
01:53 Meet John Eacott
02:25 6 yrs old and wanted to be a pilot
03:40 Into the Royal Navy
04:40 Flying training and Wings
06:10 Wessex helicopter on Anti-submarine operations
08:30 Sea King trials unit and introduction to service
10:20 Travelling the globe
10:50 Nuclear depth charges
12:00 SAR
13:08 Nigeria time on oil and gas with Alouettes and floats
15:04 North Sea flying 212s living on the rigs
17:10 1979 working out of Derby and Broome (Australia)
19:30 OMEGA navigation system
21:40 Navigating off a plotting board
23:53 Okanagan Helicopters Australia and S-61
26:02 Bombay and getting engaged
27:55 S-76s in Bass Strait and IFR helicopter operations
29:22 Victorian Police Air Wing (Dauphin)
30:58 TV stations and National Safety Council
31:45 Bob Jane T-Marts and V8 Super Cars
32:40 Low level filming accident
35:05 NSW Fire Fighting
37:05 Trained reactions in emergency
38:30 Twin engine emergencies
39:50 Airmanship
43:42 Guild of Air Pilots
44:40 Pilot-less helicopters
46:30 Aviator – not a systems operator
47:45 Flag flying with BK117
49:55 Antartica helicopter operations
53:50 Iceberg breaking off
56:20 Freedom of the City and Guild Livery, Master Air Pilot No. 1144
57:25 Tips for new pilots
1:02:20 Leave a comment on the blog
1:02:48 Pilot recruiting interview – send in your questions to [email protected]
1:03:50 Sponsors trainmorepilots.com

John on his trip in Antarctica
John on his trip in Antarctica

Links from this week’s episode:
John’s Aerial Photo Gallery
The Honorable Company of Air Pilots

 

[Tweet “I’ve never worked a day in my life. I’ve just flown for a living. Its not a job, its a vocation.”]

[Tweet “The controls would actually go the opposite way of what you wanted, which was character building.”]

[Tweet “A calm day in the North Sea is 20kts. #helicopters “]

 

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Royal Navy Wessex similar to what John flew

 

A BK117 of John's in the Victorian Ski Fields
A BK117 of John’s in the Victorian Ski Fields

As usual, please feel free to continue the conversation in the comments.